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Diagram for the R22 Automatic Weapons Company as designed by Phil Dater.

wrote himself, also brought in many more inquiries and sales. He says, "My business is booming. They seem to like my stainless steel units."

Asked about his business philosophy, Dater says, "I follow the advice of both John Ruskin and W. C. Coleman. According to Coleman no product is really sold until it is delivering satisfactory service to the user."

What Ruskin said, and what Phil Dater uses as his working policy about pricing his products, is as follows:

It is unwise to pay too much . . . but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money . . . that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. It can't be done.

-John Ruskin

As of January 1983, his prices ranged from $155.95 for an R22 model to $623.00 for the M30 unit. But prices are relative to the time, the demand, and the marketplace. As Phil Dater quips, "Sometimes, my catalogs are out of date before I get them to the printer."

In response to the quest for an ideal, universal design, Dater just shakes his head. "Design of the universal can which could simply mount to any weapon would be the admirable goal in the annals of suppressordom," he says. "But, it would also be grossly impractical and inefficient, unless one were propmaster for a film company. Their ideal would be one inch in diameter, four or five inches long, and set with a universal mount to fit anything from a tiny .22 caliber hideaway, to Clint Eastwood's .44 magnum, or maybe a quad .50!

"Then the sound man would make a quiet 4phutt* sound and that would be it. No worries about weight, degree of suppression, gas volume, velocity, metallurgy, or those other gremlins which bug us guys in the real world.

"There is also some current thinking in the real design field with which I disagree," Dater says carefully. "For instance, 1 can't see anyone claiming they build units which never need to be serviced. Hey. I know how dirty any .22 gets. So does anyone who's fired one. Barrel ports fill up with bits of lead, power residue, and bullet lube. You have to perform some cleaning service.

"I also think it is wrong to use porting holes less than an eighth inch in size. Smaller than that is just too fine to deburr properly inside the barrel. I have seen such units show considerable lead shaving on the bullets."

In addition to his silencer work, Dater expanded his product line into electronics. He's designed and is producing an electronic counter for both the Dillon and Star ammunition loading machines.

"The device counts loaded rounds as they are ejected from the machine and also has a buzzer that sets off the alarm every 1,000 rounds, which is of benefit to the commercial reloader. Or I can use a relay which automatically shuts off an electrically operated press, such as an AmmoLoad," he explains.

Dater also markets his combination catalog/ manual on suppressors. It's a very complete publication and is available from him for three dollars at Automatic Weapons Co.," P.O. Box 1731, Socorro, NM 87801.

Talking about his business venture, Phil Dater says with the look of a very satisfied man, "I am spending many more hours at this per week than when I was practicing medicine full time. But, I am enjoying it and myself a lot more."

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